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 11-04-2003, 09:21 Post: 67961
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Ken, the ole' Chief speaks wise words indeed as does Art & AC.

If you don't mind a little tinkering, you can probably find an old gear winch from an old wrecker in the junk yard. These were driven from an open chain running up from a PTo on the tranny of the old trucks. You can then do one of two things, find a small hydraulic motor to chain drive it, or mount it onto a plate fo steel and chain it to an adapter which slips over the PTO on your tractor and mounts on the 3pth.

As for capacity, the weight of the object you need to pull doesn't have as much to do with it as it's ability to roll, or in this case, it's resistance to moving in the desired direction. In other words it would lkikely take less power to make a loaded semi move on flat level ground than it would to drag a CUT buried to the differentials out of a mud pit.

I would have to say you would probably be better off spending a few bucks on a set of 4 tire chains, the diamond pattern type with carbides.

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 11-10-2003, 11:22 Post: 68385
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There will be one big problem with using a FEL as winch as described above.

When you exert upward force with the FEL against a cable, which then ran down a pulley under the front end and out to at close to a 90 degree angle to an anchor of some form there will be a tendancy for the cable to want to pull in a straight line.

In this case, if it is easier to lift the front end (maybe weighing 1500 pounds) than it is for the tractor to roll out of the situation it's in, that is exactly what will happen. You will then have created a 'wheelie machine' not a winch.

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 11-11-2003, 10:41 Post: 68478
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I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn't referring to using a winch.

I was commenting on the suggestion made earlier in the thread about using the upward force and motion of a FEL on a CUT to pull a cable attached to the bucket through a pulley below the FEL instead of a winch.

In this instance no matter where you anchored off, or what you used as an anchor point the cable would be forced to make a close to 90 degree bend. This change in direction would cause an upward force on the front end.

As for winching in general, the object of most winching operations is to 'unstick' a vehicle. Assuming we are talking about a vehicle which is sunk into the ground, the higher the anchor point the easier the pull since you are 'climbing out of' rather than 'climbing through' the ground.

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